There has been a lot of mixed messages I've been giving about 4PP on the feed and off. Now, I'd like to take the time to explain exactly how I feel about them, because, it isn't all hate.
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First of all, they are pretty cool guys. I always think to myself how much I would enjoy sitting in through a podcast and chatting with the guys at their place. They talk about a lot of cool things in gaming, and a wide variety of things, and it's exactly what I would like to talk about in our discussion shows.
They're also pretty intelligent. Brad especially knows how to articulate ideas and set a conversation up to go somewhere. They use some surprisingly smart words instead of using just simple words that anyone would use.
Their podcasts are well done for the most part. They do get off topic sometimes, but overall they know what they are talking about, the show is mostly structured, and it's enjoyable overall.
Now that that is out of the way, this is why we bash them so damned much.
Their popularity has been their biggest downfall. The total douchebaggery and lack of interaction with their chat, besides mods and stopping to call chat complete idiots, has lost them a lot of fans. Unfortunately they gain about 100 or more a day, so they don't really give a shit if people don't watch. Granted, a lot of their chat viewers are completely retarded. We would get annoyed to shit if people were quoting all of our highlights and telling us to play a game that we had turned into a meme on the channel. But then there are the other people who are apparently still retarded for watching.
Which brings me to another massive fail for 4PP. Their popularity is entirely based off of memes they created, and that is a problem, because now you're constantly annoyed by viewers to play those memes like funny shit happens EVERY time you play. You've created popularity based on something fake. They've basically taken over the internet meme "Do a barrel roll", and turned it into something that only 13 year olds would find funny over and over again. Oh wait, I just explained 98% of their viewers.
The combination of all those things create a channel that may be hugely popular, but is forced to now live in a shadow of its former self. Again, I still think that they could put on a great show, and have an interesting broadcast, but they've created a fan base that does not give a shit about gaming discussion and more intelligent things, and instead wants to see "lulz", all the time.
Wednesday, August 5, 2009
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I AGREE!
ReplyDeleteNow go play fatal frame! it will amuse me!
Have to say, that pretty much hit the nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteThe lack of interaction with chat is due to the sole fact that most of chat is made up of idiots. However, many people from chat are not. This is where the forums come in. Therefore, that part of your argument is invalid.
ReplyDeleteMemes are not created intentionally. In fact, we wish to rid memes from chat entirely. However because the part of chat that is made up of idiots decides not to, it still continues to exist. For this the mods, including myself, do what they can to stop this, which means giving these said idiots a Timeout.
A shadow of its former self? 4Player Podcast is better then it was before, popularity wise.
"but they've created a fan base that does not give a shit about gaming discussion and more intelligent things, and instead wants to see "lulz", all the time. "
You couldn't be more wrong. If you were a bit more of a community member, you'd know that have of us do give a shit about gaming and discussion of said gaming. A "lulz" every now and then is nothing more then a luxury.
I'm not saying that you're completely wrong, just that there are many faults in your post.
They play some great games and have a great cast, but ...
ReplyDeleteI'm personally offended that they ban/T.O. people for the silliest reasons. I think they're over sensitive and a lot of what they do is not necessary.
So, before I get banned over disagreeing or voicing my opinion, I'll stop watching and watch Swiftor, and RSQ Viper and Hotblooded gaming. They know how to treat a cast right.
Sam Dreessen
samdreessen@gmail.com
Doesn't seem like a very good reason to bash 4PP overall. Yeah a good portion of their chat is full of idiots, but that's sort of an unavoidable problem with popularity. I've got a feeling if you were to go deeper into the community itself, you'd see there are some fairly interesting discussions going on, and a fan base that cares for the opinions and discussions 4PP has and not just the lulz. And to quote Brad, "We were never TRYING to be funny, people just started laughing."
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